All posts by Jim Logan

Blocked.

I'm all for it. What's this about an InFAMOUS Wiki Discord?

<p>Cole is not part of the DC Universe. </p><p>InFAMOUS is not canon to the DC Universe. </p><p>Just because DC published a set of comics doesn't mean it's canon to DC. </p><p>InFAMOUS would need to be owned by Warner Bros to be canon to DC. InFAMOUS is owned by Sony. </p>

Problem is we don't exactly know any of the characters birthdays... only vagueness regarding their years.

You could fly in Festival of Blood.

<div class="quote"><i>VanityFiend wrote:<div class="quote">Jim Logan wrote:
I'm split, I give Troy props for at least <i>trying</i> to make Delsin work despite the lack of an actual script. But he didn't do enough. <p>I applaud the team behind Sucker Punch giving it their all, but the loss of a full year of development time hurt them and it shows. I do not care for Second Son, for everything they did right, they did at least two things wrong. It was obvious Sony wanted to continue the franchise with several sequels, but without Cole, a horrible protagonist in Delsin, and an underwhelming story in Second Son that did more in setting up a sequel than developing Delsin as a proper protagonist, it felt half baked, like a game that had half of it chopped off for DLC, but the DLC never came. </p> </i></div>
I agree with this assessment, but you give Baker more props than he deserves. He's not a good fit for Infamous, especially for mocap. As for the writing, I think this game actually had no writer. The writer from Infamous 2 was definitely not in charge of Second Son. </div> <p>Baker is an excellent actor, and motion capture isn't the problem, just look at his work for Naughty Dog, The Last of Us, Uncharted 4. Look at the behind the scenes making of for Second Son and you can see Troy was doing everything to at least try and make Delsin work. The problem with Delsin is he's 24, yet he's written like a 16 year old. The problem isn't with Troy, it's that it's been said they had no script to work off of by the time motion and facial capture began, so most scenes were improvised. </p>

<p>I'm split, I give Troy props for at least <i>trying</i> to make Delsin work despite the lack of an actual script. But he didn't do enough. I applaud the team behind Sucker Punch giving it their all, but the loss of a full year of development time hurt them and it shows. I do not care for Second Son, for everything they did right, they did at least two things wrong. It was obvious Sony wanted to continue the franchise with several sequels, but without Cole, a horrible protagonist in Delsin, and an underwhelming story in Second Son that did more in setting up a sequel than developing Delsin as a proper protagonist, it felt half baked, like a game that had half of it chopped off for DLC, but the DLC never came. </p>

<p>You guys need to remember Second Son suffered from a lost year of development time after Sony pushed them up to replace the Order 1886. You can't put all the blame on Nate Fox, but he, and the talent behind the game worked with what they could. </p>

<p>Well, it's a comic book based video game. </p><p>And in comic books (trust me) no one stays dead unless your name is Uncle Ben. They could find a way to revive him easily. It might be dumb, but it'd be better than suffering through another Delsin. </p>

<p>I dunno, I really don't know. I'd love to see them just ignore Second Son and make a sequel built around Cole and end it on a high note. Not let the franchise end with a whimper. </p>

<p>Vanity, Chris. Stop. Final warning, if you two continue here you'll both recieve cool down bans. If you want to continue this "fight" take it to chat, or some other site. Not here. Keep on topic. </p>

<p>Okay, stop you petty arguing. Take it somewhere else. Keep the conversation on the topic at hand. </p>

<p>First Light at least told a more grounded character driven story closer to the original InFAMOUS games. </p><p>Second Son tried to pander to the Disney MCU fans by having a wacky light hearted tone with a cool radical EDGY rebellious 24 year old who acts like a 16 year old protagonist. All respects to Troy Baker, he tried his best to make Delsin likeable considering he didn't have a SCRIPT TO WORK OFF OF. But Delsin was a lost cause. </p><p>Abigail was at least more interesting, even if her origin story was fairly generic, as it Nate Fox seemed to draw inspiration from the NYX storyline, but without the trauma that built most of that cast, he just took the "homeless mutants with drug addiction" angle without the rest of it and called it a day. </p>

<p>First Light, actually. And please don't start throwing insults at people. </p>

<p>Yes because I would blurt out that the savior of humanity, and the guy the government placed the blame on for the Empire Event and deaths of millions was still alive over an unsecure line to a 24 year old I don't know nor trust is the SMARTEST THING TO DO. </p>

<p>I'd rather Second Son just be ignored, and the next game focus on Cole and Zeke meeting alternate versions of the characters, as they are now, Abigail is interesting but Delsin is about as appealing as getting teeth pulled. </p>

Says the man named after Evil Dick Grayson :P

<p>Highly doubt it, but we'll never know as more than double the people chose Good Karma.  </p>

<p>Evil Karma has never been canon, what are you talking about? </p>

<p>Thing is...Naughty Dog has two teams. </p><p>Team A (2011 - 2014) Uncharted 1- 3, spin offs </p><p>Team B (2011 - 2014) The Last of Us/ Left Behind  </p><p>Only Team (Post Amy Hennig leaving) (2015 - 2016) Uncharted 4 </p><p>Team A (2016 - Present) The Last of Us Part 2 </p><p>Team B (2016 - Present) Uncharted spin offs </p><p>
</p><p>Sucker Punch doesn't have the man power to do separate teams. </p>