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  • With Delsin being confirmed to be Native American, I'm a bit worried about how SP will explore that factor. Will it be realistic or stereotypical?

    It's pretty blurry for me when it comes to being like that, but from what I've seen from movies; the stereotype is of Indian Burial Grounds and stuff related to that. Shamanism, Spirits, Ancestors, like Night Wolf from Mortal Kombat

    My theory is that Delsin might have a "grandfather mentor" who gives Delsin wise shamanistic advice.

    While that would be a very interesting idea for a power; let us not go there right now. 

    Notify me if I am screwing up on the stereotype vs realism here. This subject was something that I was very hesitant about, but I really wanted to say it because nobody had brought it up. 

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    • I just hope they don't go the Connor route from Assassins Creed III where when you actually get to play as him he is boring as hell.

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    • Okay... moving on to topic now.

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    • The basis of the powers of inFamous are all scientifically backed. The Conduit Gene, Ray Sphere tech, etc. That being said, I think they're trying to go for a realism angle, simply because it would be too confusing and strange for SP to change the direction around all of the sudden.

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    • Well, a conduit's power has often resembled the supernatural in one way or another. We have also encountered Blood Conduits and Swamp Creatures within the inFamous universe.

      I was only wondering whether or not Delsin's heritage will be exploited realistically or stereotypically; whether he believes in spirits or not.

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    • Delsin is of Native American desent. Like thousand of others in the US. He is not however, a Native American in and of itself. He probably can't expertly shoot a bow anymore than Cole could expertly hold tea time because of his English name.

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    • Delsin was called out as straight forward; Native American. They didn't use the word "descent."

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    • How many straight out natives do you know who live in Seattle, where beanies, and spend all their free time leaving "art" on the walls of the town?

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      • Raises hand* One....nah just kidding. But for once i'm neutral in this :P
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    • Put your hand down, Jim.

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    • Awww ;(

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    • Based on some of the artwork that's been released, there might be some spiritual references, but I wouldn't think that it would be incorporated into gameplay as much as character backing and personality build-up.

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    • I'd laugh if there was some Star Wars stuff..like Cole appears to Delsin as a force ghost. 

      Cole:Deslin you must go to Zeke's Roof. There you will learn from Zeke..

      Delsin:Yeah...I think I inhaled too much spray paint.

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    • If its anything like Star Wars, the ghost wouldn't be helpful or straightforward like that.

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    • I don't want to be this guy, but it's not like Star Wars, so there won't be ghosts, or for that matter Cole, what so ever

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    • We know. It was a joke.

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    • Character Backing was what I meant on this discussion.

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    • Lol sorry to kill it Red. Really, didn't mean to seem like a dick. But overall I don't think that he'll have the whole spirits mumbo jumbo backround. 

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    • You're not CC, we're just trying to have some fun.

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    • I might wanna try it sometime. Sounds interesting. 

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    • Well I know a native who sprays paint and lives in Seattle while wearing a beanie hat.

      Anyway I doubt SP is going to head to the supernatural side of infamous. Only time they ever did that was for horror spinoff Festival of Blood. Though the story there was pretty decent.

      The most they could do is reference those supernatural or spiritual 

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    • I still don't believe he's an actual Native American raised in a Native American family. It's not likely at all.

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    • I'm not sure exactly how Sucker Punch intended the Native American description. Did they want to describe the character, how he looks, might sound, etc.? Or did they mean his cultural backround? Both? It's all up for debate at this point. 

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    • I agree with Red (at this point, it could be anything) but I think SP just made him Native American to give him some character, give the city some more similarities to real Seattle, and maybe to make him stand out a little. I doubt Delsin is really in touch with the whole spiritual aspect to his religon and such.

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    • They'll make it good, I have trust in then. Well, unless they do a Ratonhnaké:ton (Or Connor) and make him boring as a character, which we know won't happen. We'll wait and see. And for you lucky PS4 owners in the future, I'm coming for you. To play. ISS. 

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    • I'm guessing his religion if he has one, is probably Christianity or possibly Jewish. But it's also quite likely that they won't light upon the religion at all.

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    • It was just a thought.

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    • Maybe atheism to reflect the modern feelings about religion? I mean, he's a 24 year old street artist in America, they're not really that keen on religion.

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    • I rewrote my theory above.

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    • He's a modern day Anarchist, I don't really think he is going worry too much about Spirits and stuff

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    • Battlelord7 wrote:
      Well, a conduit's power has often resembled the supernatural in one way or another. We have also encountered Blood Conduits and Swamp Creatures within the inFamous universe.

      I was only wondering whether or not Delsin's heritage will be exploited realistically or stereotypically; whether he believes in spirits or not.

      these were all from Scientific happenings, The Swamp beast were mutated humans and animals and the Blood Conduit merely had control over they're blood. How exactly did you think this had any spiritual inclinations?

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    • Jim Logan wrote:
      I just hope they don't go the Connor route from Assassins Creed III where when you actually get to play as him he is boring as hell.

      Just what I was gonna say.

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    • 123.211.255.110 wrote:

      these were all from Scientific happenings, The Swamp beast were mutated humans and animals and the Blood Conduit merely had control over they're blood. How exactly did you think this had any spiritual inclinations?


      Spiritual inclinations, what? I was talking about the transition of Fantasy themes into Science Fiction themes. The spiritual aspect being more Sci Fi in this case.

      And FYI, Blood Conduits are Vampires; play FoB.

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    • I don't think they'll even go into it. Why should they? He's a native, so what?

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    • Exactly. He has Native American blood, probably not Native American customs.

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    • Battlelord7 wrote:


      123.211.255.110 wrote:

      these were all from Scientific happenings, The Swamp beast were mutated humans and animals and the Blood Conduit merely had control over they're blood. How exactly did you think this had any spiritual inclinations?


      Spiritual inclinations, what? I was talking about the transition of Fantasy themes into Science Fiction themes. The spiritual aspect being more Sci Fi in this case.

      And FYI, Blood Conduits are Vampires; play FoB.

      So vampires are blood conduits? We might need to start theorizing how they can turn to bats with the power of blood. I really doubt they are conduits though

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    • Cole stated they were in the UGC missions that were mandatory in FOB if you were connected to UGC at the time. They spread the conduit gene through blood transfer apparently.

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    • Though I don't think it was smart on Sucker Punch's part to only reveal that through UGC.

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    • The UGC probably made it easier... for budget reasons.

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    • Still though, small pieces like that should be adressed for everyone to see, not just in UGC, which some people might not always have on.

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    • AN dthey should not given it through the FOB UGC, They would have been better off giving it through the main game.

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    • I wouldn't say that. The Blood Conduits had nothing to do with the mains story line. They had a role in the plot of FOB though, and that should've been adressed

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    • Ok .I haven't exactly finished inFAMOUS 2. I exchanged it for prototype 2 and now I'm regretting it. But I'll be getting it back soon.

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        • gasp** prepare for a wave of shun so large, you'll feel like Japan during tsunami season.
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    • Oh you poor misguided soul. You have my sympathies. May you get inFAMOUS 2 back as soon as possible.

      In honsety I loved the first prototype game better. Though the second looked cooler and all, the first one had a better story and really made me enjoy it. Second one felt kinda like an expansion

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    • Prototype 2 sucks. Don't worry though, I will be getting it back in 2-3 days. I almost cried yesterday. I miss is so much.

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    • The Brave Wolf wrote:
      Prototype 2 sucks. Don't worry though, I will be getting it back in 2-3 days. I almost cried yesterday. I miss is so much.

      Prototype 2 isn't as bad as you make it out. The story isn't the best, but is a lot better than a lot of games out there. I personally play the Prototype series for the way it makes you feel like a god, being able to rip apart giant monsters with your bare hands.

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    • I agree but It is not as good as P1. I think we are going out of topic over here.

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    • Yes, back to Spirits lol. To sum it up, do we all agree that they probably won't even mention the whole Native American backround thing?

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    • I agree because I doubt he has a Native American background at all. It's probably just heritage.

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    • Redexx wrote:
      I agree because I doubt he has a Native American background at all. It's probably just heritage.

      I second this.

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    • Here here!

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    • Yeah when he's dressed like a hipster I highly doubt he's very spiritual involved

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    • CarnageReborn wrote:
      Yeah when he's dressed like a hipster I highly doubt he's very spiritual involved


      Yeah lol.

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    • But yes in the end you're being a bit stereotypical.

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    • Mind if i jump in? Sorry for being a bit late. I agree with all this, but I personally think that, since they say he has a Native American background, maybe he will have flashbacks showing him younger listening to Native American stories (or stuff like that). Might not happen, but that's just my input for this thread

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    • Well said.

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    • Like it. It doesn't exactly delve deep into the Native American history, but it gives more insight than it just being his ethnicity

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    • Agreed

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    • Just in case you didn't see it in the video (I didn't at first), Deslin's home seems to be Native American themed. While he is talking with his brother in the new trailer, you can see the house has something like totem poles on the house in the background. Just thought it was worth mentioning.

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    • Yed, And? I've seen dozens of tourist locations with totem poles out the front, yet no one there even remotely had any Spiritual Involvement. I'm sure it's just something to give a more authentic feel about Delsin's home town though, they MAY have some spiritual meaning, it's not gonna give some groundbreaking new factor the game.

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    • Didn't say it was GROUNDBREAKING! Just that their house was modeled like that, nothing more. I just thought it was an interesting factor, is all. Sorry if it wasn't clear.

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    • Might not even be his house. They were way to close to the sign for him to easily get away with it.

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    • I thought it was a small police station. And I mean small.

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    • I think Delsin's smarter than vandalism in front of a police station. Just Saying

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    • I just remember hearing someone say it was their house (which I thought was interesting that they live outside the city. They are REALLY building on the whole NA background). There are clues that his brother had most likely caught him vandalizing and arrested him and at the same time bailed him out and brought him home. What do you think about this? Do you think it might be something else?

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    • Well I'm saying that he'd have to bring him to the station to have him bailed out. I think it might have some importance, whether it be their old house or a grandparents, but it is not his house nor a police station.

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    • Why not? It could be their ancestral home. If it's not their house, and it's definitely not a police station, what could it be? I'm seriously asking.

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    • this just seems like a stupid question somehow

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    • Well then, how's about we just wait for the game to come out.

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    • That's what I was going to say. We can speculate all we want, and as long as an option hasn't been completely ruled out by everyone else, it's still an option. Although I may doubt it's an "ancestral home", he could end up being right. That is what this thread is about after all.

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    • Also, which question were you referring to, mine or the thread's main question? If the thread's, then yeah, gonna have to agree on that -_-. 

      If it was mine, then... 

      You dirty SON OF A B*TCH! >:(

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    • Not sure which question you're referring to...

      But I meant the thread, and the general question asked on the threads

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    • For the question I asked, I was referring to the one about whether or not it was his house, or something like that. Apologies for before, it was night and me sleepyis basically being drunk with a hangover.

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    • Oh no I did see the dirtiness, but only with my mind did it make sense.

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    • Also, it just occured to me that the ide of NA's always having to be involved with spirits or being rogue guys with tomahawks and stuff is kinda racist. When someone mentions Native Americans, people think of guys like Conner Kenway, or shamans. NA (for short) is just another race, it shoudn't be thought of differently, are brits always considered tea-drinking guys in tights?

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    • No. We wear Tuxedos while we drink our tea.

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    • Grimm King wrote:
      The Brave Wolf wrote:
      Prototype 2 sucks. Don't worry though, I will be getting it back in 2-3 days. I almost cried yesterday. I miss is so much.
      Prototype 2 isn't as bad as you make it out. The story isn't the best, but is a lot better than a lot of games out there. I personally play the Prototype series for the way it makes you feel like a god, being able to rip apart giant monsters with your bare hands.

      Prototype is a terrible game. The writers of it seem like 12 year olds who watched too many sci fi movies. The plot, and even the characters are incredibly nonsensical. They don't even know what they're doing half the time.

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    • Oh and i prefer to use the term "Indigenous" like half the rest of the world. Simply because the term "Native American" is contradictory. Native means just that, being native. How are African Americans or Asian Americans or Caucasian Americans who were born & raised in America and have not spent 1 month in Africa or countries of Europe not any other than Native American......Term really sounds stupid. But then again America's way of term using has always been off. Like the calling of Latinos a "race" when they can be anything from Caucasians, Blacks, Asians, or mixed mutts lol

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    • 108.78.160.202 wrote:
      Grimm King wrote:
      The Brave Wolf wrote:
      Prototype 2 sucks. Don't worry though, I will be getting it back in 2-3 days. I almost cried yesterday. I miss is so much.
      Prototype 2 isn't as bad as you make it out. The story isn't the best, but is a lot better than a lot of games out there. I personally play the Prototype series for the way it makes you feel like a god, being able to rip apart giant monsters with your bare hands.
      Prototype is a terrible game. The writers of it seem like 12 year olds who watched too many sci fi movies. The plot, and even the characters are incredibly nonsensical. They don't even know what they're doing half the time.


      Sorta offtopic

      Better than the Devil May Cry reboot game. The only two characters that knew what the hell they were doing the entire time were Virgil and Mundas. Everyone else just looked either high or just went "Uh huh. Sure, i'll do that meaningless task just to make this game longer than it needs to be." The plot was...OK. The characters were just horrible. My point is, at least Prototype actually had characters, at least Prototype had a sound plot. At least Prototype was hard.

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    • So...Conduits and Spirits

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    • I still don't get why we're talking about spirits...

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    • While we're at it, if they ever use spirits here I'm wishing for the Cole vision tutoring system. Mysterious echoes that only you can see, teaching you ways to use some of your other abilities and how to parkour

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    • Like Superman? Haven't seen the movie, but comics have Kal-el's father appear to mentor and guide him. I don't want that. I want Delsin  to strive on his own. Maybe they could make the next game about his journey to Cole, like in Revelations?

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    • Personally, I don't believe they would use spirits of any kind. This new game isn't very comic-like, even though the first two were. This new one is a bit more hardcore. Having spirits might ruin the whole feel of the game.

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    • Even if it was comic, that wouldn't increase or decrease the feel if they added spirits. And even if it is more hardcore, it's in the gameplay mechanics and enviornment. What do you think the feel of the game is though? Because I don't think I can see it being ruined without seeing your perspective.

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    • Sorry, just feel like the idea of sprits in the game probably won't happen. And I don't see the whole echo-of-the-past thing working in this game unless Deslin gets a power which lets him do that or if they add spirits. Also, I didn't mean comic like funny, I meant comic like comic books, if you didn't understand that. Wasn't sure when you said comic. Just thought that SP probably won't add spirits in this game.

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      • Delsin -_- 

      P.S Apologies to the tux-wearing brit, I was thinking of 15th century, after looking around the internet

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    • Funny thing, I said 'if' right? Anyway I agree, SS is more of a scientific based franchise anyway

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    • Could you imagine if Delsin became a cloud of marijuana smoke or absorbed smoke from marijuana?

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    • Where did this come from lol? He would be high in the sky?

      I still want to know how you feel the game is Wikiguy, and I did understand comic like books and not funny. 

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    • The thought started off as It's a known fact that many Native American tribes burn certain herbs so that they can go into trances or just for healing purposes. Which made me think about what if delsin is heavily damaged, say in a boss fight, and gets like thrown a couple miles out of the city and gets found then healed, via methods before mentioned, by an old medicine man/woman, and he absorbs the smoke giving him a new ability and completely healing his wounds. Now this made me laugh thinking what if he needed to be healed and the only source of smoke was a marijuana joint. i know off topic but this is how my mind works :P

      P.S. It's 2:30 in the morning, so yeah.

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    • I gotcha. I don't think that marijuana would heal bullet wounds, nor would SP get that stereotypical (as we saw what happened to NA with Connor). Hilarious though

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    • CarnageReborn wrote:
      The thought started off as It's a known fact that many Native American tribes burn certain herbs so that they can go into trances or just for healing purposes. Which made me think about what if delsin is heavily damaged, say in a boss fight, and gets like thrown a couple miles out of the city and gets found then healed, via methods before mentioned, by an old medicine man/woman, and he absorbs the smoke giving him a new ability and completely healing his wounds. Now this made me laugh thinking what if he needed to be healed and the only source of smoke was a marijuana joint. i know off topic but this is how my mind works :P

      P.S. It's 2:30 in the morning, so yeah.

      Sarcastic Jerk Voice:You are so funny!

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    • Hey. Shut Up.

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    • Play nice, kids. Or you're grounded.

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    • But he started iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit! :P

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    • dose anyone think Zeke will appear in second son not like a main story character but just an apperance 

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    • Maybe.

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    • Could be either main story or cameo. It's up for debate until the game comes out.

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    • Dang, I am late! Well, in reply to your question, I feel like this new game is just like any other inFamous game, but with the real city setting and the movie-like feel I'm getting from it, the mood or feel of the game is a bit different from the originals, which I like. Also, a cameo of Zeke would be awesome.

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    • Zeke could be the leader of a Conduit Resistance, seeing as how he was Cole's best friend it's only right that he helps prove his friends wirth

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    • He could also be, as I've heard, a DUP guy, whether it be undercover or for real. We don't know if somethings happened mentally or emotionally to Zeke in the past 7 years, so he could've changed a lot since then.

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    • That would be awesome! It would really hook you into the game (or it would for me at least). Though that WOULD be cool, that, unfortunately, probably won't happen. In this new series in the francise, the best we will get is a cameo. If they do show past characters, that, again, would be AWESOME.

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    • Since this game is playing of iF2's good ending I wonder if the Question Mark Shaped Lightning Bolt will come into play. You know since the boat Cole's body was on was hit by that same lightning bolt and everything...

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    • There's an older thread about that. Cole's dead, and he's staying dead

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    • Marshall Taylor wrote:
      dose anyone think Zeke will appear in second son not like a main story character but just an apperance 


      Maybe as an easter egg since I don't think he will be the Mr.Miyagi of Second Son.

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