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  • Okay, so there's a lot of buzz about Second Son yet nobody even cares to wonder how Delsin got his powers. My guess is that either the FBI or NSA were behind it.

    It may be the NSA because John once said he gave them every schematic of the Ray Sphere he could get his hands on, but it's more likely to be the FBI since Moya was able to create military conduits without the use of the blast. It may be possible FBI agents stole or secretly copied the schematics, then figured out another way to activate conduits.

    But that's just my two cents. If you got another idea, please share. Do NOT comment anything unrelated to the post since i don't want it to get over-crowded. Thank you.

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    • The way I always saw it was that Ray Field radiation just enhanced conduits latent abilities therefore the conduit gene itself possesses some degree of it, so I thought maybe what delsin absorbed was the radiation from other peoples conduit genes. Still a pretty buggy theory and i'm trying to work out the kinks in my head.

      What you seem to be saying though (forgive (and correct) me if i'm putting words in your mouth or missunderstanding you) is that a ray sphere is needed to activate a conduits powers but bear in mind that there where people with abilities even before the blast (inFamous 1 stated Alden was a powerful mentalist) who were just made stronger by it.

      If it was caused by an organisation though, my guess is the DUP since i'm thinking they could be some new form of the First Sons.

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    • Kesslar naturally developed his powers, it just took him longer than Cole who did it artificially. I think Delsin developed his naturally as well.

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    • I believe Kessler is just Cole's timeline moved forward in time. He still used the Ray Sphere, it just took longer to make.

      I think that in extremely stressful situations, a Conduits power is activated, and the Ray Sphere creates those conditions. The Ray Field Radiation is a stronger type of radiation, and might target the parts of the body integrated with the Conduit gene. So, the Blast itself is just a kind of training room, putting the body under enough stress to activate the powers.

      Just my theory

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    • Two things

      I think first we have to look at real world science and game world science together first off genes can turn themselves on and off and don't necessarily have a specific time to activate and that can vary from person to person so yes the conduit gene should be able to activate itself. Ray feild energy just forces the activation gene releasing more and more power as more and more power is given to the gene people keep saying kesseler is stronger becuase he developed his powers naturally thats false he just had more time he said this himself cole was able to kill the beast in 3 months.

      2nd Delsin gained his powers naturally like cole,and john when the situation demanded it their power came from no where cole got near the electric wires they reacted to him, john probaly the instant he was absorbed his powers activated so the instant Delsin touched the man on the bus his powers had a reason to activate not that they werent already there. Also remeber Delsin even if the ray sphere would go off nothing would happen he has to touch a conduit first.

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    • I'm a little confused by parts of this. Can you give us a synopsis of what the two paragraphs were

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    • 1st Paragraph 

      Conduit Gene can turn itself on and off at any point in activating your powers like Kessler, but the ray sphere is a forced activation every time rayfeild energy passes through a conduit the gene turns on giving a boost or force activating the gene. Keesler got the powers he did over maybe like 4-5 years(guessing age of his children), Cole was at Kessler's level in a month and at the Beast's level at 3 so to recap gene can turn on themselves and developing your powers naturally is not better than with a ray sphere.

      2nd

      Say I had lava powers if I never went near a volcanoe how would I ever know I had super powers, you have to be exposed to a chance to use your abilities first not a stressful situation. This is the 2nd reason why people never find out they're conduits so Delsin developed his powers naturally and could have had them years ago he just had to touch another conduit first.

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    • That makes sense if you ask me, but we cant exclude the possibility that there are methods to activate conduits that we haven't been shown (we still have no idea what was done to Kuo). There is the possibility that ray field radiation could be created by natural disasters or solar flares, the latter would make more sense given they send off pretty much every real type of radiation.

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    • True, there could be other ways, as for Kuo I think her powers were activated be ray feild energy by the helmet and the liquid was just a means for copying her powers into the Vermaak the liquid did'nt activate her powers remeber it was being drained from her the liquid was a form of forced mutation where you expose a human to a substance to give them powers causing deformaties like with David and the Corrupted.

      Rayfeild energy could be just that a form of energy when neuroelectricty is put through that unknown substance in the ray sphere it could produce energy while making that substance decay causing radiation like uranium.

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    • We still do not know if the conduit gene can be inherited. It is mentioned that it is the result of a mutation though they did not say any further, say when both parents are Conduits. Perhaps when two active Conduits have a child, that child will be also a conduit and an activated one.

      Also remember that the First Sons were founded in the middle ages. Why would someone create such a society especially during that time? The only logical explanation is that some Conduits were branded witches and demons and were forced to flee, eventually coming together in a single place. This proves indeed that Conduits do not need a ray field energy to have their powers activated (unless a ray sphere existed and was activated during medieval times).

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    • Also, I will say it again, Kessler's timeline is Cole's shifted forward. The Ray Sphere just took longer because Kessler didn't head up the First Sons and rush production

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    • 773066 Alden Tate was stated to already be a "powerful mentalist" as a child and was just made stronger by the blast. We know that a Ray Sphere isn't required to activate a conduit, it's just an artificial creation of mass amounts of ray field radion which seems to act as some sort of signal that tells the gene to activate. The radiation in itself can't have been manufactured so the First Sons founding probably came about around the time of it's discovery.

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    • Ccnitro lets just call it a plot hole because we cant match up the timelines perfectly and Kesseler never metions how he knows about the first sons or the raysphere, but lets go off of kesslers vision cole get married has children then it jumps to the beast's arrival and then he runs froms the beast FOR YEARS  then he goes back in time. Everything we say is speculation but if he had powers when the beast came and a raysphere was never metioned and he was always on the run him having the time to use a raysphere seems highly unlikely.

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    • Beast i'm starting to agree with you after some thought, maybe something happened years ago that caused conduits to activate (Fetch seemed to get hers at a young age in that trailer) and it's just that Delsin had never touched another conduit before. I think it might actually have something to do with the RFI, since Zeke broke it maybe it didn't work properly and just sort of "pushed" all of the radiation away from New Marais and thats why conduits half a continent over are now being activated. There is however also the possibility that Delsins powers got activated when he bought a blast shard off ebay.

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    • All I'm arguing is the point that Kessler's powers were activated by the Ray Sphere. I agree with every other point that a Conduit's power can be activated over a period of time.

      But I have a new question. Why are there Conduits now? Why not back in the 1600s? There has to be something new now. I know the First Sons started around the 1800s, but why not any time beforehand?

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    • Ccnitro wrote:
      All I'm arguing is the point that Kessler's powers were activated by the Ray Sphere. I agree with every other point that a Conduit's power can be activated over a period of time.

      But I have a new question. Why are there Conduits now? Why not back in the 1600s? There has to be something new now. I know the First Sons started around the 1800s, but why not any time beforehand?

      This had me thinking: What if all those old witch hunts were actually Conduit-Hunts? Conduits just discovering their powers, out of control, or even using them for evil, can seem like witchcraft or black magic.

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    • Magic

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    • But even before that. I'm being more speculative than I should, but it coud help us understand why Conduit's powers are being activated now or sometime before

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    • Ccnitro we cant prove conduits didnt exist in B.C remeber you can live and die wihtout ever knowing your a conduit plus even the people with the plague didnt know plus the only reason we are seeing these conduits is because of a new age of science pretty much all conduits shown so far are linked to the ray sphere itself or john combined with the ray sphere its not that conduits never existed before its just that the conduit gene is the next play toy of the human race for research and war.

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    • But is that the answer? Is it the fact the Ray Sphere was activated that Conuits have started to pop up more commonly? Maybe it released Ray Field Radiation into the atmosphere, causing both the plague and the activation of new Conduit's powers

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    • Yep thats the only answer I can think of plus even though conduits can activate naturally does'nt mean they have to also Ccnitro when  you say why so many conduits are showing up is confusing me because theres only like 10 true born conduits throughout the 3 games all the enemies dont count they are human who have been mutated recieved copies of someone elses powers ie Vermaak,Corrupted,Dust Men,Reapers,First Sons they are all part conduit.

      I already answered why conduits started to appear now we have to find out why they are appearing again I think the conduit gene being a mutation it mutates kinda obvious right  its always changing upgrading its self and being exposed to radiation might increase this and if that true then this could explain how people survived the RFI the gene changed its not even explained why the RFI kills conduits in the first place.

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    • Well there's time before the games is all I'm saying. Time didn't just start during inFamous.

      I don't exactly agree with the mutation part, depending on what you mean. If you mean something happened in the past couple hundred years to create the Conduit gene then I disagree. But if you're saying that it's a mutation like blue eyes, then I'm in complete agreement

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    • Guys, sorry to revive this old thread, i wanted to make a new one but i figured what was said here could be useful for future reference.

      Anywho, after Cole decides to destroy the Ray Sphere rather than activate it, Kessler contacts him and tells him that, "the Ray Sphere was the catalyst of [his] powers, and it could have strengthen [him] even more". Now, 'Catalyst' means something that speeds up a process.

      This suggests that people can indeed reach their powers without a Ray Sphere blast, and that the Ray Sphere simply speeds up the process. It's a guess, but i'm sure that after 7 years, a lot of Ray Sphere radiation has spread to the point where conduits can naturally have their abilities activated. How it was spread, is beyond me. Probably experiments thought.

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    • It's either a really detailed point by SP, or we're just looking for reasons. Either way it's a good find and could be useful as to why Delsin's powers, or for that matter everyone's powers, are being activated

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    • What I think is that when Delsin absorbed his first power (smoke) from another conduit (his real power is to absorb other powers) and that activated his conduit gene (he isn't a normal conduit)

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    • Couldnt Delsin just track down all the other conduits and then releasing his full power sponge energy(loke how he can only run a short distance unless he gets unlimited speed)

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    • As meon of course but

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    • So, what do we have so far?

      Something happens. Conduits are born. Witch and demons hunts are actually conduit hunts. These conduits that managed to escape formed the first sons.

      The Ray Sphere accelerates the process of gaining powers, though not granting them at first, as shown by Kessler gaining powers without a ray sphere, Delsin probably not being even near one, and Alden being a mentalist before it is used.

      Blast Shards and thus core relays work the same I assume.

      The ray sphere pumped the atmosphere with special radiation, mutating into a plague. People with the conduit gene become active instead when exposed to the radiation(actually, activated faster and gaining more powers).

      Conduits needing to drain something to recharge is probably just a gameplat mechanic, but it can be explained that elemantel conduits need to do so. But then again, it doesn't explain how Augustine drains powers. She's the prime, she can't high-five herself and recharge, so how did she do that before the DUP was founded?

      A better explanation would be: It's just a faster way. I mean, Augustine didn't do something while Delsin trapped her in concerete, maybe she was drained? Hank was drained when you could kill him. Fetch became weaker once you took her neon signs away, since that way she probably had to recharge naturally.

      What do you think?

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    • BeastPlagueEver wrote:
      Two things

      I think first we have to look at real world science and game world science together first off genes can turn themselves on and off and don't necessarily have a specific time to activate and that can vary from person to person so yes the conduit gene should be able to activate itself. Ray feild energy just forces the activation gene releasing more and more power as more and more power is given to the gene people keep saying kesseler is stronger becuase he developed his powers naturally thats false he just had more time he said this himself cole was able to kill the beast in 3 months.

      2nd Delsin gained his powers naturally like cole,and john when the situation demanded it their power came from no where cole got near the electric wires they reacted to him, john probaly the instant he was absorbed his powers activated so the instant Delsin touched the man on the bus his powers had a reason to activate not that they werent already there. Also remeber Delsin even if the ray sphere would go off nothing would happen he has to touch a conduit first.

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      R.I.P Grammar.

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    • I think the conduit gene can also be activated by extreme emotional stress and pressure, as seen with Fetch, Eugene and Hank.

      Abigail had a fight with a fellow classmate in school, activating her respective powers.

      Eugene was physically bullied in school, activating his powers.

      Henry was frequently imprisoned, chased and tortured by police, the pressure activated his powers.

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    • AbsentMindDeviant wrote:
      I think the conduit gene can also be activated by extreme emotional stress and pressure, as seen with Fetch and Eugene.

      Abigail had a fight with a fellow classmate in school, activating her respective powers.

      Eugene was physically bullied in school, activating his powers.


      How did you knew about Abigail? When did they said that?

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    • Also people who hosted the gene and the plague got their powers activated when Cole sparked up the RFI.

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    • AbsentMindDeviant wrote:
      Also people who hosted the gene and the plague got their powers activated when Cole sparked up the RFI.


      Can you answer what I asked about Fetch? And what do you think about my what do we have so far?

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    • Vision0 wrote:
      AbsentMindDeviant wrote:
      Also people who hosted the gene and the plague got their powers activated when Cole sparked up the RFI.

      Can you answer what I asked about Fetch? And what do you think about my what do we have so far?

      It's in First Light.

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    • Blueexx wrote:
      Vision0 wrote:
      AbsentMindDeviant wrote:
      Also people who hosted the gene and the plague got their powers activated when Cole sparked up the RFI.

      Can you answer what I asked about Fetch? And what do you think about my what do we have so far?
      It's in First Light.


      The game? I don't think I remember that. Or was it in the trailer?

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    • Answer?

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    • Vision0 wrote:
      Blueexx wrote:
      Vision0 wrote:
      AbsentMindDeviant wrote:
      Also people who hosted the gene and the plague got their powers activated when Cole sparked up the RFI.

      Can you answer what I asked about Fetch? And what do you think about my what do we have so far?
      It's in First Light.

      The game? I don't think I remember that. Or was it in the trailer?


      An answer?

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    • Since conduits a lot of neuro electricity in them I think when hank was about to use his powers then delsin touched his hand the neural electricity went to Delsin and activated his powers

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